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Monday, July 06, 2009

CHURCH Vs STATE

John Howard, the former Prime Minister of Australia, has given a broad-ranging interview to Macquarie Radio.
In part, he spoke about the "stolen generation" issue, an intervention that saw children removed from their natural parents in the name of protecting them.
Said children were being abused, often sexually, and really, what else could have been done? The innocents in life must indeed, be protected from such a life. Kids of white parents are to this day removed if such action is warranted. And rightly so, any decent person would agree.

He also stood by his decision not to "say sorry" to the indigenous people for the intervention, saying, "No, I took the view that it's very easy for the current generation to apologise for mistakes of an earlier generation, and because it's so easy to do that I think it's meaningless,"
In this particular decision, I agree entirely. "We" didn't remove their children (from sexual abuse remember). Why should "we" apologise?

Howard went on to say he never regretted any of the major decisions his government made.

I should add that, notwithstanding the fact that Howard was a carreer politician of some forty years, and therefore pondlife, I have also held him in higher regard than most of his kind.
And I have agreed with the majority of his decisions.

However, in the radio interview he brings up, and sides with, the matter of one's personal beliefs being "brought forward into their public life".
And in principle, when one's referring to, basic moral values (interestingly, something the average politician chooses to ignore when it suits - if indeed they were ever awsare of a thing called moral value), I would also agree.
But one must also be cognizant of:

Tony Abbott - and his ilk. My utter contempt for this man is well known.

Abbott has attempted on several occasions to force his religious beliefs on this nation via legislation; first with the abortion drug RU 486, then in handing a pregnancy counselling service to his mates in the Papistry.
RU486 is a drug that facilitates miscarrige and is used globally as a safe way to terminate a pregnancy. Abortion is a personal choice taking in a myriad of factors and normally arrived at after much soul-searching and heart-rending acceptance of facts.
But Mt Abbott's a raging Papist and in his position, if he doesn't agree with abortion then neither can the public it seems. (In point of fact, the bill was voted down in the House, thank goodness - but nevertheless, that this odious little man could attempt such a flagrant violation of the pro-choice demographic is an indictment in itself...).
Not satisfied with his defeat, Abbott then "back-doored" the matter, and slyly awarded the pregnancy counselling service to the very people who share his belief - the young boy-buggering robed ones in the catholic church. Yeah, like we're going to get a fair shake now...
In fact, the Papistry is at least as dangerous as Islam. They may not be actively involved in a war with anyone currently but the reach and control they have over the world's 2 billion catholics has a greater effect on the world than we may be able to conceive.
So the last fucking thing anyone needs is some papist in government expanding this reach on those who deny such a belief.

Careful Johnny.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear Muttars,
Would suggest you read the Bringing Them Home report before you trot out anymore commentary on the stolen generation.
Nice to see you have added some new posts ... thought perhaps you had a writers block.
Liz

mutters said...

Liz,

"Would suggest" your fav current term by any chance...?

I don't need to read any report from some leftie bleeding heart, especially one with such a nauseating movie-like title as "bringing them home".
The fact is, these people are to this day, selling their children for piss, or renting may be more accurate.
Another fact is that they live like animals and often impregnate the children as young as 10 years old. You'd rather the authorities just turned a blind eye to that?
They're never done bleating on about "their land". Well I tell you what, if you want the white man to leave you to live the way your ancestors did - in huts and chucking spears at things - then fine.
But you then lose all right to any advantages of civilization. Medicines, schooling, housing and most of all (and the main cause of all the problems - piss!)
Besides which, all property is theft someone once said. Nobody, really, owns this earth. At best we all rent it.

Oh yeah, where's your blog and how many posts have you written??

Unknown said...

You sound like an imperialist!!!!

Don't get on your soapbox again!!!!

Unknown said...

My most recent comment was ref.the indigenous population--wrong place.

In our part of the world this serious problem -- re R.C's-- has become somewhat of a standing joke.

One man's meat and all that.
The problem is much more widespread however than in the area of R.Catholicism.

Anonymous said...

LMAO ... so serious muttars .. not like you hahahaha

mutters said...

Listen Gladiola, first there was the Celts, then there was the Romans, then the British, currently the Americans, and probably the Chinese.
They all are guilty of subjugation. Why? Because they could - and no-one could stop them.
The Red Indians, the Incas, the Tibetans and many more - all victims of the same steamroller.

My disgust at the Roman Catholic church is well known but I'm somewhat of a live and let live chap so I mainly look upon those who chose this faith with a mixture of pity and bemusement.
However, for that rabid Papist to attempt via legislation to force this belief on me is where I have to draw the line.
This is the perfect example of why indeed the church and state should remain separated.

mutters said...

It's a serious issue, Liz. What's next in Abbott's dastardly plan? Will I be forced to go to confession? To genuflect?

I suppose my sex life will improve, mind you...

Anonymous said...

Well apparently dear Mr Abbott wants to bring back fault based divorce. He is indeed a dickhead.

And how is your sex life by the way .. I miss our charming chats.

mutters said...

This goes way beyond his being a dickhead.
Understand this: he's attempting to force his personal beliefs on society. He can believe in whomever or whatever he chooses, and as long as that belief remains in his personal life then I'll die to defend that right. That he embraces Papism is neither here nor there.
But once he tries to force it on me...that makes him no better than the towelheads and their fanatical beliefs (which again, I'll defend as long as they keep it to themselves).
I'm having none of it. End of story.